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I found out where all the fundies get their talking points.
Over and over on the Amazon.com parenting forum discussion we find our opposition writing the same tedious comments, verbatim almost. Well today I located the mother lode of their inspiration. See if you recognize any of this.
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Families are God’s idea, beginning in Genesis: teach the children well!
by guest columnists Dave and Mary Jo Nutting, Alpha Omega Institute, Colorado, USA
Family
Alpha Omega Institute’s “Discover Creation” family camps provide fun, fellowship and learning for the whole family in the beautiful mountains of Colorado.
January 3, 2006
Families are close to God’s heart. In fact, they were His idea in the first place. From the beginning, when God created man, He said, “It is not good for man to be alone,” so He created woman as a “help-meet, suitable for him” (Gen. 2:18). Then, He blessed them and told them, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish [fill] the earth” (Gen. 1:28). Even after they fell into sin, God continued with His plan for families, and even spoke prophetically of the salvation that would come through the seed of the woman (Gen. 3:15).
Later, after the Flood, He reiterated His plan to Noah and his sons, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth” (Gen. 9:1). God continued His plan when He chose Abraham and miraculously gave him a son in his old age (Gen. 21). And so it goes, all the way down to the “fullness of time, when He sent forth His Son” (Galatians 4:4) to be born in human flesh, to live and to die for the people He Himself had created.
Throughout the ages, God’s plan and desire has always been for parents to raise up their children to know and love Him and walk in His ways. In Deuteronomy 6:6, God told the Israelites to keep His commands in their hearts and to teach them diligently unto their children, talking of them throughout the day in every circumstance of life.
Many families today are in deep trouble because they have not been “diligently teaching” their children. Instead, they have left it to the schools, media, museums, national parks and others to do the job. We’ve often heard, “I’m not going to shove the Bible down my kids’ throats. When they are old enough, they can decide for themselves.” The problem is, these parents forget that while they are not teaching their kids the Bible, the world is shoving its evolutionary, humanistic, atheistic or New Age religion down their throats.
It might sound nice to raise kids “neutrally,” but it’s impossible to do. While these parents may think they are doing the best for their children, and that their children will be able to objectively look at all their options and choose for themselves when they are older, they are leaving them defenseless against the anti-God teaching of our modern-day society. No parent would just let kids “discover for themselves” the dangers of running into a busy street. They would teach, warn and even discipline their children in order to protect them. In like manner, we need to prepare them to face the challenges of the day by teaching the truth and exposing the lies of a society that has turned its back on God.
Children especially need to be grounded in the foundational doctrine of creation and prepared to withstand the evolutionary indoctrination which is so pervasive in our society. Fortunately, parents today have many excellent resources upon which to draw as they teach their children, exposing the lies of evolution and presenting the truth of creation from both the Bible and science. High-quality books, videos, DVDs, and curriculum for all ages are available to help parents educate themselves and their children.
In addition, God has raised up many qualified and gifted speakers to teach creation seminars and other programs for kids and adults. Other opportunities include creation camps, tours, museums, conferences, media broadcasts, publications, and websites. We praise God for the wealth of information and the numerous opportunities He has provided.
So we encourage you: teach your children. Prepare them to withstand evolutionary, humanistic indoctrination by giving them sound biblical and scientific teaching that demonstrates the truth of God’s Word. Pray with them and build relationships with others who can provide a godly example. Teach them to know and love Him, to honor His Word and walk in His ways.
But what if your kids are grown or you don’t have children of your own? God still has a purpose and plan for you as part of His family, through faith in Christ Jesus. You can fulfill His plan “to be fruitful and multiply” as you give yourself to His Kingdom work by being a spiritual mother, father, sister or brother in the Lord. So take the challenge. “Borrow some kids,” and become a blessing to someone today.
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This essay came from none other than Answers in Genesis:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0103families.asp
Here are favorite arguments:
the world is shoving its evolutionary, humanistic, atheistic or New Age religion down their throats.
and,
No parent would just let kids “discover for themselves” the dangers of running into a busy street.
and
prepared to withstand the evolutionary indoctrination which is so pervasive in our society.
and
exposing the lies of evolution and presenting the truth of creation from both the Bible and science.
My comment:
We must remember that millions of children are being fed a steady diet of this pap in their sham home schools and sectarian schools. Sequestered and under tight control 24 hours a day seven days a week they have no opportunity to hear opposing views. In as much as the parents they depend upon for their very survival are feeding them these lies and distortions, why would the children not believe what they are told. It is even in their books and DVDs. Surely bad information would not come from a book.
The article gives parents permission to hit their children:
"They would teach, warn and even discipline their children".
Discipline is the code they use for physically hitting children.
Deplorable, unspeakably stupid, ignorant, --- words fail me.
What can we do about this. One thing is for sure, to allow it to fester unchallenged is not an option. We can directly challenge these people in public forums. They need to hear that what they are doing is wrong and that someone is paying attention. Secondly, we must demand tight regulation of homeschools and mandatory core curriculum, Thirdly we must strongly oppose all voucher programs that are meant to undermine the financial base of public schools by siphoning students away. Likewise, we must fight subsidies that go to sectarian schools. Do not swallow that propaganda that our public schools are in crisis, the crisis is being manufactured by the right wing that wants to destroy public education so they can establish religious schools and conduct bible study, among other things.
__________________________________________________
Families are God’s idea, beginning in Genesis: teach the children well!
by guest columnists Dave and Mary Jo Nutting, Alpha Omega Institute, Colorado, USA
Family
Alpha Omega Institute’s “Discover Creation” family camps provide fun, fellowship and learning for the whole family in the beautiful mountains of Colorado.
January 3, 2006
Families are close to God’s heart. In fact, they were His idea in the first place. From the beginning, when God created man, He said, “It is not good for man to be alone,” so He created woman as a “help-meet, suitable for him” (Gen. 2:18). Then, He blessed them and told them, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish [fill] the earth” (Gen. 1:28). Even after they fell into sin, God continued with His plan for families, and even spoke prophetically of the salvation that would come through the seed of the woman (Gen. 3:15).
Later, after the Flood, He reiterated His plan to Noah and his sons, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth” (Gen. 9:1). God continued His plan when He chose Abraham and miraculously gave him a son in his old age (Gen. 21). And so it goes, all the way down to the “fullness of time, when He sent forth His Son” (Galatians 4:4) to be born in human flesh, to live and to die for the people He Himself had created.
Throughout the ages, God’s plan and desire has always been for parents to raise up their children to know and love Him and walk in His ways. In Deuteronomy 6:6, God told the Israelites to keep His commands in their hearts and to teach them diligently unto their children, talking of them throughout the day in every circumstance of life.
Many families today are in deep trouble because they have not been “diligently teaching” their children. Instead, they have left it to the schools, media, museums, national parks and others to do the job. We’ve often heard, “I’m not going to shove the Bible down my kids’ throats. When they are old enough, they can decide for themselves.” The problem is, these parents forget that while they are not teaching their kids the Bible, the world is shoving its evolutionary, humanistic, atheistic or New Age religion down their throats.
It might sound nice to raise kids “neutrally,” but it’s impossible to do. While these parents may think they are doing the best for their children, and that their children will be able to objectively look at all their options and choose for themselves when they are older, they are leaving them defenseless against the anti-God teaching of our modern-day society. No parent would just let kids “discover for themselves” the dangers of running into a busy street. They would teach, warn and even discipline their children in order to protect them. In like manner, we need to prepare them to face the challenges of the day by teaching the truth and exposing the lies of a society that has turned its back on God.
Children especially need to be grounded in the foundational doctrine of creation and prepared to withstand the evolutionary indoctrination which is so pervasive in our society. Fortunately, parents today have many excellent resources upon which to draw as they teach their children, exposing the lies of evolution and presenting the truth of creation from both the Bible and science. High-quality books, videos, DVDs, and curriculum for all ages are available to help parents educate themselves and their children.
In addition, God has raised up many qualified and gifted speakers to teach creation seminars and other programs for kids and adults. Other opportunities include creation camps, tours, museums, conferences, media broadcasts, publications, and websites. We praise God for the wealth of information and the numerous opportunities He has provided.
So we encourage you: teach your children. Prepare them to withstand evolutionary, humanistic indoctrination by giving them sound biblical and scientific teaching that demonstrates the truth of God’s Word. Pray with them and build relationships with others who can provide a godly example. Teach them to know and love Him, to honor His Word and walk in His ways.
But what if your kids are grown or you don’t have children of your own? God still has a purpose and plan for you as part of His family, through faith in Christ Jesus. You can fulfill His plan “to be fruitful and multiply” as you give yourself to His Kingdom work by being a spiritual mother, father, sister or brother in the Lord. So take the challenge. “Borrow some kids,” and become a blessing to someone today.
________________________________________________________________
This essay came from none other than Answers in Genesis:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0103families.asp
Here are favorite arguments:
the world is shoving its evolutionary, humanistic, atheistic or New Age religion down their throats.
and,
No parent would just let kids “discover for themselves” the dangers of running into a busy street.
and
prepared to withstand the evolutionary indoctrination which is so pervasive in our society.
and
exposing the lies of evolution and presenting the truth of creation from both the Bible and science.
My comment:
We must remember that millions of children are being fed a steady diet of this pap in their sham home schools and sectarian schools. Sequestered and under tight control 24 hours a day seven days a week they have no opportunity to hear opposing views. In as much as the parents they depend upon for their very survival are feeding them these lies and distortions, why would the children not believe what they are told. It is even in their books and DVDs. Surely bad information would not come from a book.
The article gives parents permission to hit their children:
"They would teach, warn and even discipline their children".
Discipline is the code they use for physically hitting children.
Deplorable, unspeakably stupid, ignorant, --- words fail me.
What can we do about this. One thing is for sure, to allow it to fester unchallenged is not an option. We can directly challenge these people in public forums. They need to hear that what they are doing is wrong and that someone is paying attention. Secondly, we must demand tight regulation of homeschools and mandatory core curriculum, Thirdly we must strongly oppose all voucher programs that are meant to undermine the financial base of public schools by siphoning students away. Likewise, we must fight subsidies that go to sectarian schools. Do not swallow that propaganda that our public schools are in crisis, the crisis is being manufactured by the right wing that wants to destroy public education so they can establish religious schools and conduct bible study, among other things.
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